What would a non-capitalist society/economy look like?
How would it function on a day-to-day basis?
What would life be like for the average person?
How would people be compensated?
How would personal property be handled?
What would the role of the state be? (because I know some anti-capitalists are also pretty anti-state, which to me seems to leave an impasse with an anarchist Utopia as the only logical conclusion.)
The following is not going to answer any of these completely, but will give some idea of where I'm coming from, an hoping that humanity is going to. Bearing in mind that I've written this between 3am and 4am, and not all the ideas or thoughts thrown to the wwwinds are complete or necessarily sensible, I hope that this gives food for thought, opens discussion further, and maybe clarifies what's going on.
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Before asking how we can meet the needs and wants of individuals in society, we have to determine what those might be. Some needs are universal and tangible, so that we can immediately say that everyone needs food, water, shelter and so on – the basic survival necessities. Other needs might be specific to different groups or individuals, and other needs might be less tangible, on an emotional or ‘spiritual’ level. One of Marx's chief points in writing Capital (and indeed, in his previous writings) was the way in which capitalism deprives humanity of the ability to express freely those more spiritual needs. His concept of alienation certainly included this idea.
In capitalist society, everyone works in order to stay alive. Whatever else may be gained by work, if one doesn't work then even the most basic of needs are threatened. Essentially, if we look at Maslow's hierarchy of needs, what Marx showed was that under capitalism, work became all about meeting the needs of safety and physiology; the other needs were relegated to "free time". Thus, a worker's interest and development is alienated from hir work. Marx argued that society could be ordered so that work was in accordance with the higher needs, and actually promoted directly the advancement to esteem and self-actualization.
Another way of looking at this is through the lens of Adam Smith, who observed that class can be defined by how long someone could expect to live if zie refused to work. The working class is that sector of society for whom the basic needs of food and shelter would quickly force them back to work. The Miners' Strike of 1984-5 was a truly epic industrial action, and in fact many of the miners were starving by the end of the strike, supported by allies in other industries who provided food and shelter for the strikers.
Effectively, Marx's communist society would be ordered so that the work people do gives them the best opportunity to fulfil themselves as human beings. Marx envisioned this involving people becoming their own experts in everything, and not specialising in anything. I think Marx may have been projecting his own polymath tendencies onto the rest of society when he wrote those few passages where he talks about this vision of communist society. However, I think we can turn to that other great philosopher, Richard P. Feynman, for an example of what the communist life might look like, according to this theory. Feynman had one central talent and career path, as a theoretical physicist and lecturer. Pursuing this was always his central work, but he also through his life became a Latin American drummer, an artist and many other side lines, each of which he pursued to the fullest extent of his capabilities. In our capitalist society, those might be regarded as hobbies, things apart from or distracting from one's main line of work, but in a communist society, it would be open for you to contribute to society as a whole, as a form of work, by doing any or all of those things. In so doing, you would also help to promote others' ability to achieve their own advancement towards "self-actualization".
Thus, the question of "how would people be compensated?" starts to fade away – work would literally be its own reward, in terms of esteem, and in terms of forging relationships in a much better way than capitalist work can (for instance, by seeing first-hand the results of your work in improving others' lives), and in terms of one's own creativity and freedom of expression.
Politically, there wouldn't be a "state" as such, because democracy would be completely devolved, with decisions being made and power being wielded at the lowest possible levels. In a way, if we consider Plato's Republic, with the "Philosopher-Kings", then that would also be a way of looking at a communist society – except that everyone would be a Philosopher, and everyone would be a King. Participation in democracy would not be a once-every-2-years affair, but would be almost daily, with the real chance of seeing one's own thoughts become developed into policy that spreads throughout society.
Marx himself was very reticent on the matter of how certain unpleasant-but-necessary tasks would be completed (when challenged on these matters, he usually retorted by suggesting that it would be the questioner and his ilk who would be given the job!). It seems clear that participation in society would be dependent upon being willing to "pitch in" with some of these jobs, in a way, the rest of one's work and leisure time is the payment or compensation for this relatively minor part of one's day. Banishment might be an appropriate punishment for someone who wasn't willing to play their art in keeping society running (just as a housemate who doesn't do their share of the household chores might be asked by hir housemates to find somewhere else to live).
The matter of distribution of wealth and resources is also tricky: while "from each as according to hir ability, to each as according to hir need" is a great principle, there is a huge logistical question of how to get provisions from those able to provide them, to those in need of them. Then there is the question of determining how much and when. Some form of administrative structure and accountancy will surely be needed to handle these matters, especially as there will always be a global level at which some of these distribution decisions need to be made (even if the vast majority of provisions are produced locally).
Assuming for the moment that the society is not facing a Malthusian catastrophe, and that supplies are ample, there is still a question of how to distribute the excess after the basic needs of security and physiology are met. I do not trust "means-testing", even as it might appear in a communist society, so this is a tricky issue. In academic research especially, where the potential benefits are impossible to know, how to prioritize one research project over another is always a difficult issue. While supplies may be plentiful, they will never be infinite, so it will never be possible to spend resources without looking at these questions. I suspect that peer review will still be the best way to assess academic matters in this respect; possibly a similar way of handling the distribution of other types of resources might be good, too (for example, with musical equipment, who gets first choice is decided by other musicians, on whatever grounds are relevant).
In terms of fair distribution of wealth, and the day-to-day expenditure by individuals of that wealth, I think that there is little alternative to some form of rationing scheme. However, we are used to seeing rationing in times of shortage, so the connotation that we have of rationing implying hardship need not apply to our plentiful communist society. The rationing level should be set sufficiently high that only an absolute glutton would ever reach it. If someone wanted to host a big party, then they might use up their ration allowance completely, but in that case, it would be the essence of cooperation and social interaction to invite some of the guests to use a portion of their ration allowance to help out (after all, "bring your own bottle" is a familiar concept, so why not use the same idea here?)
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In parts 2 and 3 (links when I've written them) I shall write a couple of fictional "day in the life" stories about Mark and Sandra: two inhabitants of a society that exemplifies one possible way the above description might look to an "ordinary commie".
Thanks for writing this post! I don't have time to write a decent response right now, but I wanted to let you know I had read it and plan to respond as soon as I get enough time!
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, I'll admit upfront that I probably haven't read nearly as much Marx and other related theory as you have. I read some Marx in college, but it's been about 7-8 years since the last time. That's why I didn't quite know what to say to Barefoot Bum on my blog - he was referencing things I wasn't familiar with.
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The main sticking point for me here is this:
Thus, the question of "how would people be compensated?" starts to fade away – work would literally be its own reward, in terms of esteem, and in terms of forging relationships in a much better way than capitalist work can (for instance, by seeing first-hand the results of your work in improving others' lives), and in terms of one's own creativity and freedom of expression.
You say that Marx himself was evasive at providing an answer to how unpleasant (or even just mundane) but necessary tasks would be taken care of. And to me that's a pretty major thing that needs to be addressed. Saying that everyone should pitch in is a nice idea and, ideally, it *is* the way things should work. However I think we all learned long ago that humans just aren't like that. There's always someone who doesn't hold up their end of the deal - and I don't think living in a Communist society would change that quirk of human nature in many people.
It's why I always hated group work in school - there were always one or two members of the group who wouldn't contribute a damn thing but were more than happy to take the credit with the rest of the group. And those of us who actually cared about our grades had to pick up their slack, otherwise we would suffer because of *their* laziness.
Also, fundamentally it just makes me uncomfortable to think of "spiritual fulfillment" as a requirement for work. It seems too Utopian. It's great if someone can find that kind of fulfillment from work, but most people don't, and I don't think it's a reasonable expectation. If someone feels that that's what they should get out of work, I just see it as setting them up for major disappointment. I like the Fight Club mantra of "You are not your job. You are not your fucking khakis" - and what you propose seems to be the opposite of that. Already in our society we see the ill effects of people being defined by their work; I'm having a hard time conceptualizing how this would be different.
Politically, there wouldn't be a "state" as such, because democracy would be completely devolved, with decisions being made and power being wielded at the lowest possible levels. In a way, if we consider Plato's Republic, with the "Philosopher-Kings", then that would also be a way of looking at a communist society – except that everyone would be a Philosopher, and everyone would be a King. Participation in democracy would not be a once-every-2-years affair, but would be almost daily, with the real chance of seeing one's own thoughts become developed into policy that spreads throughout society.
This is interesting because this is what many Libertarians advocate for. (Forgive me if I'm being USA-centric here... I don't know if you have a Libertarian party, or perhaps if the Libertarian philosophy is more of a general thing like Communism. In any case, if I'm not being clear just let me know.) Libertarians want government to be as small as possible and are opposed to any large-scale government institutions and programs. This tends to make them opposed to Communism and socialism because they oppose things like, for example, universal healthcare.
I admire some Libertarian views (not the healthcare one), but my biggest problem with them is what you address here:
The matter of distribution of wealth and resources is also tricky: while "from each as according to hir ability, to each as according to hir need" is a great principle, there is a huge logistical question of how to get provisions from those able to provide them, to those in need of them. Then there is the question of determining how much and when. Some form of administrative structure and accountancy will surely be needed to handle these matters, especially as there will always be a global level at which some of these distribution decisions need to be made (even if the vast majority of provisions are produced locally).
I guess I'm just wondering how that will work out, and if there will be the potential for this administrative body to gain too much power and then we end up with Communism a la China or Soviet Russia. I wonder if there's any way to really control for that or if that sort of power struggle is part of the human condition.
Thank you for a very thought-provoking response, I confess that very little of the answers I've given so far, or that I give in this comment, are fully thought-out - but I think that having some questions on which to hang the answers is helpful in forming some of the ideas. I hope also that, even if you find them unpersuasive of the benefits of revolution, then at least you will understand better what it's about.
ReplyDeleteYou say that Marx himself was evasive at providing an answer to how unpleasant (or even just mundane) but necessary tasks would be taken care of. And to me that's a pretty major thing that needs to be addressed. Saying that everyone should pitch in is a nice idea and, ideally, it *is* the way things should work. However I think we all learned long ago that humans just aren't like that. There's always someone who doesn't hold up their end of the deal - and I don't think living in a Communist society would change that quirk of human nature in many people
I do see this as problematic, and in some ways it's one of those "unanswerables" – some people will believe that it will change, and others won't – the only way to know for sure is to try it for real. There are arguments for and against each position. My personal belief is that people tend to take pride in what they're good at, sometimes even if it's something they hate doing. It was the difference for me between working as a cleaner, and working as a stacker of hay bales. Neither job was something I enjoyed, but I'm rubbish at cleaning and it turned out that I was able to do the physical hay bale stacking work well enough to impress the farmhands I worked with (it was a summer job while I was at university).
I believe, also, that the capitalist hegemony tends to promote the lazy attitude of "what's in it for me?" and maybe social pressure and a different social structure would change that.
It's why I always hated group work in school - there were always one or two members of the group who wouldn't contribute a damn thing but were more than happy to take the credit with the rest of the group. And those of us who actually cared about our grades had to pick up their slack, otherwise we would suffer because of *their* laziness.
I don't know what projects you had at school, an I don't know why the lazy people were lazy, but my recollection of group work at school has tinges of being on both sides of that equation: sometimes there was work that I was just not very good at, and it seemed wisest not to interfere with those who knew what they were doing; other times I was on the outside because a social clique would form in the group forcing me out of the process (this happened quite a lot once things like fashion and pop music became important to my peers, and not to me). On the other hand, sometimes I was one of those who ended up carrying the group, because I was the one who was good at it, and maybe some of the others weren't.
It's about finding the right person for the right job, but also the right job for the right person.
Also, fundamentally it just makes me uncomfortable to think of "spiritual fulfilment" as a requirement for work. It seems too Utopian. It's great if someone can find that kind of fulfilment from work, but most people don't, and I don't think it's a reasonable expectation. If someone feels that that's what they should get out of work, I just see it as setting them up for major disappointment. I like the Fight Club mantra of "You are not your job. You are not your fucking khakis" - and what you propose seems to be the opposite of that. Already in our society we see the ill effects of people being defined by their work; I'm having a hard time conceptualizing how this would be different.
The difference is that work in a capitalist society is still all about the money – I think I mentioned the theme that crops up time and again in English attitudes of, "sure I'd like to earn more money, but this is what I love". It's about that sort of fulfilment. One of those slogans about a proper "work/life balance" is: "work to live, don't live to work" – by which I understand they mean "work in order to pay for a fulfilling life". The tragedy of capitalism is that for most people "work to live" means "work in order to stay alive another day/week/month".
In the society that I've tried to start describing here, "work to live" would take on a much deeper meaning: the work you do would be in accordance with the things that nowadays you'd have to work in order to pay to do. Rather than having the work define you, you would end up defining your work to suit you. Work would be a tool and a path that you make for yourself to find fulfilment, rather than being something prescribed for that purpose.
We are familiar with work being regimented in one way or another – you're expected at your place of work by a certain time, to do a set number of hours in every day, and following more or less the same pattern as every other worker at the company. Ultimately, in our current society, we are made to fit into the slots provided for us by work. In the society I am trying to describe, the reverse would be true: our work would fit into the spaces we need it to. In the words of the founding texts of the USA, it would be the means to one's "pursuit of happiness" (life and liberty having already been achieved).
My biggest problem with them is what you address here:
"The matter of distribution of wealth and resources is also tricky: while "from each as according to hir ability, to each as according to hir need" is a great principle, there is a huge logistical question of how to get provisions from those able to provide them, to those in need of them. Then there is the question of determining how much and when. Some form of administrative structure and accountancy will surely be needed to handle these matters, especially as there will always be a global level at which some of these distribution decisions need to be made (even if the vast majority of provisions are produced locally)."
I guess I'm just wondering how that will work out, and if there will be the potential for this administrative body to gain too much power and then we end up with Communism a la China or Soviet Russia. I wonder if there's any way to really control for that or if that sort of power struggle is part of the human condition.
I haven't been able to unravel this knot completely yet, but I do have some thoughts on how to approach it.
I think whatever society we live in, there is a question of qui custodiet custodiens? ("who watches the watchers?"). I just think that when individuals themselves are directly involved in the political process, it will be easier for them to see what's going on and where there might be problems.
I guess I would expect three different strands of government or organisation in such a society:
1/. Communal democracy - starting with Mark's pub group and many others like it, for the larger scale decisions there would have to be some form of elected representatives.
2/. Workers' democracy – similar to the communal democracy, except that this is the way in which business are run as collectives.
3/. Administrative – instructed by the other two branches, and administrators accountable directly to every level of communal democracy and/or worker's democracy depending on the specific admin role performed. Would there need to be a specialised (and trained?) job of keeping an eye on the administrators to prevent corruption? I don't know – maybe, and maybe not; I guess I imagine that would be the role of the free press. It might fall to the people themselves to be watchful - as another of your great historical figures is reputed to have said, "the price of freedom is eternal vigilance".
Sorry I haven't commented back... haven't been sure of what to say, to be honest! I've been marinating on what you've said here and on the other thread. I think overall you provide a good illustration of how you see a Communist society working. I guess my sticking point with it is I just have a very difficult time imagining it *actually* working out that way, plus I keep coming back to the question of, how would we *get* there? What would have to happen in the interim, and how long would that take, and to whose benefit and whose detriment? It's much easier for me to conceive of reforming our current system to eliminate or greatly reduce the inequities in it.
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